House Democrats are entering their second day of public hearings regarding the impeachment inquiry into President Trump, but not all of their members are backing the effort.
After a disastrous day one of the hearings on Thursday, Democratic CongressmanJeff Van Drew of New Jersey said the entire investigation was based on hearsay and described the claims as nothing more than “he said, she said,” the Western Journal reports.
Neither of the first pair of star witnesses—Acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine, William Taylor, and Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent—overheard the contents of the phone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Zelensky. Neither man was in the room or spoke to Trump about the conversation.
Taylor, who is at the center of the alleged scandal that Trump threatened to withhold financial assistance unless the Ukrainian leader investigated former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden and his son, testified that he heard from his staffer that another individual familiar with a different call described the quid pro quo offer.
During Taylor’s testimony, he claimed President Trump spoke with Gordon Sondland, the American ambassador to the European Union, about the “investigations” into former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.
Taylor’s information came from one of Taylor’s staffers who claimed he overheard the president’s phone call with Sondland.
“It’s hearsay,” Van Drew said after Taylor’s testimony, per the report. “It’s really difficult dealing with this because it’s he said, she said.”
“Frankly, the aid did flow, so that really isn’t an issue at the end of the day,” Van Drew added, referencing that no aid was withheld despite there being no investigation into the Bidens. “The aid flowed, and everything resolved.”
Breitbart reports: “Van Drew said he would need to see the stronger evidence such as verifiable documents or audio of President Trump’s conversations to prove the allegations levied against him for him to back impeachment.”
Van Drew was one of two Democrats who voted against initializing the impeachment inquiry last month due to this lack of evidence.
“Without bipartisan support, I believe this inquiry will further divide the country tearing it apart at the seams and will ultimately fail in the Senate,” Van Drew said at the time per the Western Journal. He also described the process as “hopelessly partisan.”
“I have been hearing from my constituents on both sides of this matter for months, and the escalation of calls this past week just shows me how divided our country really is right now,” he continued per Breitbart.
“Without support from Senate Republicans, going down this path is a mistake. Today’s vote is both unnecessary, and widely misrepresented in the media and by Republicans as a vote on impeachment. I will not make a decision on impeachment until all the facts have been presented,” Van Drew also said.